M.KOVAN:
\nOkurlar\u0131m\u0131z sizi merak ediyor.K\u0131saca kendinizi tan\u0131t\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?
\nK. B\u0130LGET:
\n-\u00d6nce size te\u015fekk\u00fcr borcumu \u00f6deyeyim. Bu s\u00f6yle\u015fiyi okuyacak olanlara da \u015fimdiden selamlar; sayg\u0131lar. Aileden en son Besni do\u011fumlu olan benim. Benden sonrakiler Ad\u0131yaman \/ G\u00f6lba\u015f\u0131 do\u011fumlular. B\u00fcy\u00fck b\u00fcy\u00fck b\u00fcy\u00fck dedem Ali efendi 1800l\u00fc y\u0131llar\u0131n ortalar\u0131nda ve Besni\u2019 de az say\u0131daki okul okumu\u015flardan birisiymi\u015f. Ya\u015fl\u0131l\u0131k d\u00f6nemlerinde imaml\u0131k yapm\u0131\u015f. \u0130\u015fte bu imaml\u0131ktan m\u0131d\u0131r nedir; bana anlat\u0131lanlardan ve ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131mdan bilirim: Benim baba taraf\u0131 (b\u00fcy\u00fck dedem, dedem ve babam ve tabi di\u011ferleri) olay ve olgular\u0131 hep niyesi, ni\u00e7ini, nedeni, nas\u0131l\u0131, yeri ,zaman\u0131 ve ki\u015fileri ile birlikte anlat\u0131rlard\u0131. Onlardan da bana ge\u00e7me bir hikayeci yan\u0131m\u0131n var oldu\u011funu ben ezelden beri bilirdim. \u00d6rne\u011fin, \u00f6\u011fretmenlik y\u0131llar\u0131mda mini minnac\u0131k \u00f6\u011frencilerim hi\u00e7 s\u0131k\u0131lmadan beni dinlerlerdi. Siyasette ilk g\u00f6revim de\u011filse de, hemen arkadan gelen g\u00f6revim seminerler vermekti. Fakat t\u00fcm bunlar beni yaz\u0131l\u0131 anlat\u0131c\u0131l\u0131\u011fa y\u00f6nlendirememi\u015fti. Onu da k\u0131z\u0131m ba\u015fard\u0131. Yani ben P\u0131nar\u2019\u0131n babas\u0131y\u0131m. Masal ve \u00f6yk\u00fc yaz\u0131c\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 k\u0131z\u0131ma bor\u00e7luyum.<\/p>\n
M. KOVAN:
\n-Benim ikinci sorum da o konuyla ilgili olacakt\u0131. 1986 y\u0131l\u0131nda cezaevine girdikten sonraki s\u00fcre\u00e7te k\u0131z\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in \u201cTATLI PINAR\u201d ad\u0131nda bir gazete \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 biliyoruz. Ben bunu g\u00fcnl\u00fck gazetelerden okumu\u015f ve TKP nin Sesi Radyosundan dinlemi\u015ftim. Tatl\u0131 P\u0131nar\u2019\u0131n ser\u00fcvenini okurlar\u0131m\u0131zla payla\u015f\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?<\/p>\n
K: B\u0130LGET:
\n-1987 y\u0131l\u0131n\u0131n ilk aylar\u0131ndan birindeydi. E\u015fim Sa\u011fmalc\u0131lar cezaevine ziyaretime gelmi\u015fti. \u201cP\u0131nar\u2019a daha \u00e7ok mektup yazmal\u0131s\u0131n\u201d dedi bana. \u201c En az ayda iki tane yaz\u0131yorum ya\u201d deyince ben; o; \u201c\u00c7ocuk ( K\u0131z\u0131m o zaman 3.5 ya\u015flar\u0131ndayd\u0131.) herg\u00fcn istiyor; \u201c dedikten sonra eklemi\u015fti: \u201cBirgece beni uyand\u0131r\u0131p yeni mektubunu kendisine okumam\u0131 istedi. Eskilerden birisini okumam\u0131 da kabul etmedi. Yeni mektup diye tutturdu. Zor uyuttum. Sabah eski mektuplardan birisini yeni bir zarfa koyup, yeni pul yap\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131p yeni mektup diye \u00e7ocu\u011fa okuduk.\u201d diye.
\nSan\u0131r\u0131m cezaevi psikolojisi ile bu anlat\u0131lanlar birle\u015fip sarsm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 beni. Ne yapabilirim sorusu etraf\u0131nda epeyce d\u00f6n\u00fcp durdu\u011fumu hat\u0131rlar\u0131m. Sonu\u00e7ta bol resimli (okuyucuya gerek kalmas\u0131n diye) ve az yaz\u0131l\u0131 bir gazetede karar k\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. \u015eeklide biraz gazeteye benzesin istiyordum. Ko\u011fu\u015ftaki bir ressam arkada\u015fa k\u0131z\u0131m\u0131n bir resmini \u00e7izirdim. Onun malzemelerinden de epeyce yararland\u0131k. Bizim Partinin illegal gerilla teksircisi, yani bas\u0131mc\u0131s\u0131 karde\u015fim Remzi de ko\u011fu\u015f arkada\u015flar\u0131m aras\u0131ndayd\u0131. O domates kasalar\u0131ndan bir tezgah (bas\u0131m d\u00fczeni) haz\u0131rlad\u0131. Ressam arkada\u015f \u201cBoya s\u00fczece\u011fim\u201d diye d\u0131\u015fardan bas\u0131m ipe\u011fi getirtti ve b\u00f6ylece i\u015fin malzeme ve matbu yan\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6zd\u00fck. Ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve gazetenin k\u00fcnyesini standart hale getirdik. Remzi geceleri tomarlarca ka\u011f\u0131d\u0131n bas\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 yapt\u0131. Gazete ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n alt\u0131ndaki k\u00fcnye \u00e7er\u00e7evesinin i\u00e7inde \u015funlar yaz\u0131l\u0131yd\u0131: \u201cTatl\u0131 P\u0131nar gazetesinin sahibi: PINAR. Haz\u0131rlayan: BABASI Teknik sorumlu:AMCASI Fiat\u0131 : \u00c7OOOKCA \u00d6P\u00dcC\u00dcK.
\n\u201cTatl\u0131 P\u0131nar\u201d ser\u00fcveninden ilgin\u00e7 bulunaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 umdu\u011fum iki k\u0131sa anlat\u0131da daha bulunay\u0131m.Sa\u011fmalc\u0131lar\u2019da ba\u015flayan gazetecilik maceram\u0131 Bursa mahpusunda s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fcyordum. \u00d6\u011frendim ki; Gazetemizin 13. say\u0131s\u0131 okura ula\u015fmam\u0131\u015f. Ara\u015ft\u0131r\u0131p soru\u015fturdum. Bursa bas\u0131n savc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 sak\u0131ncal\u0131 bulup el koymu\u015f bizim gazeteye. Gerek\u00e7e de gazetedeki hayali bir r\u00f6portajm\u0131\u015f. O\u011flunu \u00f6zleyen bir mahk\u00fcm geceleri gidip o\u011flunu uykuda \u00f6p\u00fcp geri geliyormu\u015f.S\u00f6yle\u015finin konusu da buydu.Ve ne ettimse gazeteyi sav\u0131c\u0131l\u0131ktan geri alamad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 da belirteyim. \u0130kinciye gelince; Mehmet \u00c7etiner ad\u0131nda bir mahpus arkada\u015f\u0131m, \u0130stanbul \u0130HD \u015fubesi ad\u0131na ve cezaevine gelen \u00e7ocuk mektuplar\u0131ndan olu\u015fan bir kitap haz\u0131rl\u0131\u011f\u0131 yap\u0131yordu o zaman. Benden de destek istemi\u015fti. Ben de ona Tatl\u0131 P\u0131nar\u2019dan bir \u00f6zel say\u0131 haz\u0131rlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. O \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma EYL\u00dcL \u00c7\u0130\u00c7EKLER ad\u0131yla yay\u0131nland\u0131. Bizim gazetenin f\u0131at\u0131 \u00e7ok ilgi \u00e7ekmi\u015fti. G\u00fcnl\u00fck gazetelerin birinci sayfa ba\u015fl\u0131klar\u0131 aras\u0131na girmi\u015fti.
\n\u00d6z ve \u00f6zet olarak belirteyim: Mahpustan k\u0131z\u0131ma mektular yollayaca\u011f\u0131m, ona bilmeceler,masallar ve \u00f6yk\u00fcler yazaca\u011f\u0131m derken, geldik DER\u0130KL\u0130 D\u0130LAN ve \u00f6tekilere.. <\/p>\n
M. KOVAN:
\n-Uzun bir s\u00fcredir sosyal medya \u00fczerinden \u00f6yk\u00fcler yay\u0131nl\u0131yordunuz. Sonra okurlar\u0131n\u0131za s\u00fcpriz yapt\u0131n\u0131z. Derikli Dilan adl\u0131 kitab\u0131n\u0131zla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131lar. Bu kitab\u0131n yaz\u0131l\u0131\u015f bi\u00e7imi ve zamanlamas\u0131 hakk\u0131nda bilgi verir misiniz?<\/p>\n
K. B\u0130LGET:
\n– Ben T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin son elli y\u0131ll\u0131k siyasi tarihinin tan\u0131klar\u0131ndan, san\u0131klar\u0131ndan ve elbette ma\u011fdurlar\u0131ndan birisiyim. 1990 l\u0131 y\u0131llar\u0131n, yani o korkun\u00e7 kirli sava\u015f y\u0131llar\u0131n\u0131n alt\u0131n\u0131 kal\u0131nca \u00e7izmeliyim. O binlerce k\u00f6y\u00fcn yak\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131, y\u00fczbinlerce k\u00fcrd\u00fcn s\u00fcrg\u00fcnlere g\u00f6nderildi\u011fi, onbinlerce insan\u0131n \u201cfaili me\u00e7hul\u201d e kurban edildi\u011fi, yani K\u00fcrt halk\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 o pis sava\u015f\u0131n her t\u00fcr yol ve y\u00f6nteminin denendi\u011fi y\u0131llard\u0131 o y\u0131llar. Ben o y\u0131llarda DEP Genel ba\u015fkan yard\u0131mc\u0131s\u0131yd\u0131m; sonra HADEP ve Genel sekreter yard\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131..Yani siyasetin, olaylar\u0131n ve tabii sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131n tam orta yerindeydim.\u00d6rne\u011fin; Mardin milletvekilimiz say\u0131n Mehmet Sincar ve Batman il y\u00f6neticimiz Metin \u00d6zdemir benim kuca\u011f\u0131mda son nefeslerini verdiler. Onlar\u0131n katilleri bana \u00fc\u00e7 kur\u015fun s\u0131km\u0131\u015flar. Haberim yoktu. Olay yerini incelerken anlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131k.
\nHi\u00e7 bir su\u00e7 i\u015flemeden san\u0131k yap\u0131lan onbinlerce arkad\u0131\u015f\u0131m\u0131n aras\u0131ndayd\u0131m her daim.Ve az say\u0131lmayacak kadar cezalara \u00e7arpt\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131m. Yani su\u00e7suz yere ve epeyce \u00e7ok ma\u011fdur edildim. Fakat bu nedenlerle de, tarihi varedenlerin, ama tarihi yaz\u0131lmayanlar\u0131n , tarihi nas\u0131l yazd\u0131klar\u0131na da tan\u0131kl\u0131klar ettim.
\nDER\u0130KL\u0130 D\u0130LAN o tan\u0131kl\u0131klar\u0131m\u0131n bir par\u00e7as\u0131d\u0131r. Genel anlamda insanl\u0131\u011fa, \u00f6zelde ise K\u00fcrt halk\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 olan g\u00f6revimin, yani borcumun (o s\u0131n\u0131rlar i\u00e7erisinde) yerine getirlmesi \u00e7abas\u0131d\u0131r. Bu sat\u0131rlar\u0131 g\u00fcncele indirgeyerek yazay\u0131m. O y\u0131llarda ve birg\u00fcn \u0130stanbul Devlet G\u00fcvenlik mahkemesinde tutuksuz yarg\u0131land\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir duru\u015fmama gitmi\u015ftim. DGM ara salonunda kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m tan\u0131d\u0131k bir avukat arkada\u015f\u0131m\u0131n iste\u011fi \u00fczerine onun girdi\u011fi duru\u015fmay\u0131 izlemi\u015ftim. Gen\u00e7 bir K\u00fcrt k\u0131z\u0131 ile orta ya\u015fl\u0131 hasta bir K\u00fcrt erke\u011fi san\u0131kt\u0131lar. Duru\u015fma ba\u015flad\u0131. \u0130lk s\u00f6z\u00fc 6 Nolu DGM ba\u015fkan\u0131 kulland\u0131 ve \u00f6zetle dedikleri \u015funlard\u0131: \u201cK\u0131z\u0131m polise ifade vermemi\u015fsin. Savc\u0131l\u0131kta ve sorgu hakimli\u011finde hi\u00e7 konu\u015fmam\u0131\u015fs\u0131n. Burada, heyet huzurunda umar\u0131m kendini savunursun\u201d
\nBa\u015fkan s\u00f6zlerini bitirdi, ben oturdu\u011fum banktan aya\u011fa kalkt\u0131m.Kimse anlad\u0131 m\u0131 bilmiyorum ama, ben tarih i\u00e7inde destan yazan o \u00e7elimsiz K\u00fcrt k\u0131z\u0131n\u0131n destan\u0131n\u0131 ayakta selamlad\u0131m. Ve o selamlama an\u0131nda kendi kendime dedim ki; \u201cYi\u011fit \u00e7ocuk, kara kuru K\u00fcrt k\u0131z\u0131, seni tan\u0131mak ve \u00f6yk\u00fcn\u00fc yazmak isterdim.\u201d Dedim ve istedim ya, o yi\u011fit K\u00fcrt k\u0131z\u0131yla tan\u0131\u015fma \u015fans\u0131m olmad\u0131 ne yaz\u0131kki. Ben de ba\u015fka bir yol denedim. Nereli oldu\u011funu bilmedi\u011fi o tek s\u00f6z s\u00f6ylemeyen K\u00fcrt k\u0131z\u0131n\u0131 Derikli yapt\u0131m. Ad\u0131n\u0131 ikinci k\u0131z\u0131m\u0131n ad\u0131 olan Dilan koydum. K\u00fcrt co\u011frafyas\u0131ndaki kimi di\u011fer tan\u0131kl\u0131klar\u0131mla o k\u0131z\u0131n destan\u0131n\u0131 bir \u00e7at\u0131 alt\u0131nda toplad\u0131m. Ve taa 1999\u2019da ve Saray cezaevinde o \u00f6yk\u00fc, yani Derikli Dilan do\u011fdu..<\/p>\n
M. Kovan:
\n-K\u00fcrt ve K\u00fcrdistan ger\u00e7e\u011fini iktidarlar oldum olas\u0131 ter\u00f6rize etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131rlar. Halk\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck sevdas\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6n\u00fcn\u00fc kesmek isteyenler yaln\u0131zca insanlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 \u00f6ld\u00fcrm\u00fcyorlar; k\u00f6ylerimizi ve \u015fehirlerimizi yak\u0131p y\u0131kmakla yetinmiyorlar; tarihimizi ve do\u011fam\u0131z\u0131 da tahrip ediyorlar. Siz bu ac\u0131 ger\u00e7ekleri siyaset\u00e7i ve yazar kimli\u011finizle ve birinci a\u011f\u0131zdan anlat\u0131yorsunuz kitab\u0131n\u0131zda. \u00d6rne\u011fin \u015fu Karatilki olay\u0131n\u0131 bize biraz a\u00e7ar m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?<\/p>\n
K. Bilget:
\n-\u00d6yk\u00fc kahraman\u0131m\u0131z Dila\u2019\u0131n Derikli birisi diye \u00f6yk\u00fcye yerle\u015ftirilmesinin as\u0131l gerek\u00e7esi o Karatilki\u2019dir. K\u00fcrt halk\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fclen kirli sava\u015f\u0131n benzerlerinden ayr\u0131 bir sava\u015f oldu\u011funun, yani neden K\u0130RL\u0130 oldu\u011funun anlat\u0131lmas\u0131 \u015fartt\u0131. O Karatilki\u2019nin Quleba p\u0131nar\u0131na nas\u0131l geldi\u011fini, havuza atlay\u0131p nas\u0131l kana kana su i\u00e7ti\u011fini ve sonra da nas\u0131l paattt diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcp \u00f6ld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc Derikli arkada\u015flar\u0131mdan \u00e7okca dinlemi\u015ftim. Elbet Karatilki\u2019nin Deriklileri nas\u0131l a\u011flatt\u0131\u011f\u0131 da bana anlat\u0131lanlar aras\u0131ndayd\u0131.
\nAraya sormad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z bir konu s\u0131k\u0131\u015ft\u0131ray\u0131m izninizle. \u00d6yk\u00fcde anlat\u0131lan keneli ma\u011fara da ger\u00e7ektir. T\u0131pk\u0131 Karatilki gibi. O keneli ma\u011farada iki \u00e7ocu\u011fuyla \u00fc\u00e7g\u00fcn ya\u015fayan kad\u0131n benim yolda\u015f\u0131md\u0131r. Kah\u0131rl\u0131 bir \u00fc\u00e7 gecedir o. Her akl\u0131ma geldik\u00e7e benim g\u00f6zlerimi ya\u015fart\u0131r.
\nKaratilki, keneli ma\u011fara ve Maz\u0131da\u011f\u0131 me\u015fe ormanlar\u0131n\u0131n yak\u0131lmas\u0131 ( ki bu da ger\u00e7kten ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r) \u00fc\u00e7lemesi b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde kirli sava\u015f\u0131n kirinin bir yan\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6zler \u00f6n\u00fcne sermeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Yani Karatilki\u2019nin ve Maz\u0131da\u011f\u0131 me\u015fe ormanlr\u0131n\u0131n yak\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fc anlatarak demek istedik ki; 1914 ve 15 lerde Ermenileri ve Ermenilere ait ne varsa hepsini tarihten ve co\u011frafyadan silmeyi \u00f6nemli oranda ba\u015faran \u0130ttihat ve Terakki kafas\u0131, \u015fimdi de (1990\u2019l\u0131 y\u0131llar) K\u00fcrt halk\u0131na ve onun de\u011ferlerine kar\u015f\u0131 sava\u015f a\u00e7m\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. \u00dcstelik, kurals\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, hukuksuzlu\u011funu ve kirini daha da art\u0131rm\u0131\u015f olarak.
\nSizin de soruda belirtti\u011finiz gibi, benim siyasi kimli\u011fim nedeniyle anlat\u0131n\u0131n i\u00e7erisinde siyasi sinmi\u015flik elbette var: Hem de epeyce. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc konu siyasi, ben siyaset\u00e7iyim. Bu ikisinin b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc nedeniyledir ki; \u00f6yk\u00fcn\u00fcn kurgusunda ve tekni\u011finde birinci a\u011f\u0131z anlat\u0131y\u0131 se\u00e7tim. Bu a\u00e7\u0131klamay\u0131 bir ba\u015fka nedenle de gerekli g\u00f6rmekteyim. Derikli Dilan\u2019daki an\u0131\/ \u00f6yk\u00fc benzerli\u011fi yaln\u0131zca bir benzerliktir.
\nKeneli ma\u011frayd\u0131, Karatilkiydi, Maden \u00e7ay\u0131nda, Hazar g\u00f6l\u00fcnde bulunan \u00f6l\u00fc bedenlerimizdi, kirli sava\u015ft\u0131, kirli sava\u015f\u0131n ac\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7eken ve \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck kavgas\u0131n\u0131n y\u00fck\u00fcn\u00fc omuzlayan K\u00fcrt halk\u0131yd\u0131 derken, elbette as\u0131l var\u0131lmak istenen yer insan ve insanl\u0131kt\u0131r. \u0130\u015fte o insan ve isanl\u0131\u011fa dair olan a\u011f\u0131z tad\u0131yla g\u00fclmek ve g\u00f6n\u00fcl g\u00f6z\u00fcyle a\u011flamak nas\u0131l olur da insanlar\u0131n elinden al\u0131n\u0131r sorusuna yan\u0131t arad\u0131k. Kitab\u0131 okuyacak olanlara \u201c Hele \u015fu Dilan k\u0131z ve Arife kad\u0131na bir al\u0131c\u0131 g\u00f6zle bak\u0131n demeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131k. Yani insanlar\u0131n yaln\u0131zca ya\u015fama haklar\u0131, \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckleri ve ekmekleri ellerinden al\u0131nm\u0131yor. G\u00fclmek, a\u011flamak, sevinmek ve sevmek gibi insani \u00f6zellikleri de yok ediliyor.
\n\u00d6rne\u011fin ben, konusu a\u011flayamamak olan hi\u00e7 bir kitap okumad\u0131m ve duymad\u0131m bu zamana kadar.<\/p>\n
M. Kovan:
\n-Ayakkab\u0131 ustas\u0131 Ali Rabu\u015f kitaba ayr\u0131 bir renk katm\u0131\u015f. Anla\u015f\u0131lan Ali Rabu\u015f\u2019u yak\u0131nen tan\u0131yorsunuz.<\/p>\n
K. B\u0130LGET:
\n-Elbette! \u201cBu noktada belirtmeliyim ki\u201d; Rabu\u015f bizim Besnilidir; yolda\u015f\u0131md\u0131r, gen\u00e7lik arkada\u015f\u0131md\u0131r ve \u0130stanbul \/ Gedikpa\u015fa\u2019dan kom\u015fumdur. Kanl\u0131 canl\u0131 olarak vard\u0131r yani. 12 Eyl\u00fcl fa\u015fist darbesinin ilk i\u015fkenceye ald\u0131klar\u0131ndand\u0131r. Bir d\u00f6nem yaz\u0131 i\u015fleri m\u00fcd\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Onun \u00e7ay\u0131n\u0131n ve sigaras\u0131n\u0131n ard\u0131ndan yeti\u015fecek kimseler bulunamaz san\u0131yorum. Ve \u201cbu noktada\u201d ona en s\u0131cak selamlar\u0131m\u0131 g\u00f6nderiyorum.<\/p>\n
M. Kovan:
\n-Kitab\u0131n zirve noktalar\u0131ndan birisi bence, Bolu da\u011flar\u0131nda K\u00f6ro\u011flu ile kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fman\u0131zd\u0131r. Dilan ile K\u00f6ro\u011flu ba\u011f\u0131n\u0131 nas\u0131l kurdunuz diye sorsam…<\/p>\n
K.B\u0130LGET: O hayal anlat\u0131m\u0131; \u00f6yk\u00fcye \u00fc\u00e7 yerden s\u0131k\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131ya ba\u011fl\u0131d\u0131r. \u0130lki; yol boyu yap\u0131lan olduk\u00e7a \u00e7ok tasfirlerin Bolu da\u011flar\u0131na ula\u015f\u0131l\u0131nca, ancak K\u00f6ro\u011flu \u00fczerinden dillendirilebilece\u011fi \u00f6nceli\u011fidir. \u0130kincisi, birisi tarihten, birisi \u015fimdiden iki \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck sava\u015f\u00e7\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n bir bi\u00e7imini yaratmak iste\u011fidir. \u00dc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fcs\u00fc, kirli sava\u015f\u0131n y\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 aras\u0131nda unutulan bir inceli\u011fin; iki e\u015fsiz k\u0131r \u00e7i\u00e7e\u011fi ile iki d\u00fcnya tatl\u0131s\u0131 gen\u00e7 kad\u0131n\u0131n bulu\u015fturulmas\u0131 \u00f6zlemidir. Hat\u0131rlat\u0131r\u0131m: G\u00fclmeyi unutmu\u015f \u00f6yk\u00fc kahraman\u0131m\u0131z Dilan\u2019a, o g\u00fczel kahkahalar\u0131 K\u00f6ro\u011flunun o g\u00fczel k\u0131r \u00e7i\u00e7ekleri att\u0131rmaktayd\u0131.
\n\u0130zninizle az\u0131c\u0131k yan yola sapaca\u011f\u0131m. Kitaba yeterince K\u00fcrt insan\u0131n\u0131n i\u00e7 d\u00fcnyas\u0131n\u0131 yans\u0131tabildi\u011fimi sanm\u0131yorum. Bu benim i\u00e7in \u00e7ok zor bir i\u015ftir. Kitapta yeterince Kurdi yan bulamayanlara pe\u015fin pe\u015fin s\u00f6yledim: Ben T\u00fcrk\u00fcm ve K\u00fcrt\u00e7e bilmiyorum. \u0130\u015fte benim bu ger\u00e7ekli\u011fimden dolay\u0131d\u0131r ki, ben \u015eeyh Bedrettin, Dede Korkut, Baba \u0130sak, Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015fi Veli, Mevlana, Yunus Emre, Nasrettin Hoca, Dadalo\u011flu, Pir Sultan Abdal ve K\u00f6rolu gibilerini as\u0131l manevi dedelerim sayar\u0131m. Bu nedenle Bolu da\u011flar\u0131ndan her ge\u00e7ti\u011fimde mutlaka \u201c Dedemi\u201d anar ve selamlard\u0131m. San\u0131r\u0131m denmek istenen anla\u015f\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Fakat son 12 y\u0131ldan beri benden manevi dedelerimi kendi topraklar\u0131nda selamlama hakk\u0131m da elimden al\u0131nm\u0131\u015f durumda. Bu da s\u00fcrg\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn bir cilvesi ne yaz\u0131kki.<\/p>\n
M. Kovan :
\n-Edebiyat alan\u0131nda ba\u015fka ne gibi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131z var?<\/p>\n
K. B\u0130LGET:
\n-Say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 tam bilemiyorum ama; san\u0131r\u0131m ikisi veya \u00fc\u00e7\u00fc masal, birisi \u00e7ocuk bilmeceleri olmak \u00fczere (k\u0131z\u0131m b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde okusun diye yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131m) on kadar kitap olmaya haz\u0131r dosyam var. Bir o kadar da \u00fczerinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m \u00f6yk\u00fc dosyalar\u0131m bulunmakta. Hayalhanemdeki dosya say\u0131s\u0131 ise s\u0131n\u0131rs\u0131zd\u0131r.<\/p>\n
M. Kovan:
\n-Son olarak okurlara ne s\u00f6ylemek istersiniz?<\/p>\n
K. B\u0130GET:
\n-Okumayan insan eksiklidir. Hem bu eksiklik b\u00fcy\u00fck bir eksikliktir. Bu eksikli\u011fini gidermeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan herkeslere selam olsun. G\u00fclmeyi ve a\u011flamay\u0131 asla unutmas\u0131nlar.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
M.KOVAN: Okurlar\u0131m\u0131z sizi merak ediyor.K\u0131saca kendinizi tan\u0131t\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z? K. B\u0130LGET: -\u00d6nce size te\u015fekk\u00fcr borcumu \u00f6deyeyim. Bu s\u00f6yle\u015fiyi okuyacak olanlara da \u015fimdiden selamlar; sayg\u0131lar. Aileden en son Besni do\u011fumlu olan benim. Benden sonrakiler Ad\u0131yaman \/ G\u00f6lba\u015f\u0131 do\u011fumlular. B\u00fcy\u00fck b\u00fcy\u00fck b\u00fcy\u00fck dedem Ali efendi 1800l\u00fc y\u0131llar\u0131n ortalar\u0131nda ve Besni\u2019 de az say\u0131daki okul okumu\u015flardan birisiymi\u015f. Ya\u015fl\u0131l\u0131k d\u00f6nemlerinde …<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":1656,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[54,57,56],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1650"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1650"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1650\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1663,"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1650\/revisions\/1663"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/1656"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1650"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1650"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.dengekurdistan.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1650"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}